Podcast: 016 State & Future of Birth Care

In this episode we had the opportunity to welcome Dr Mimi Niles, PhD, CNM, MPH in for a lengthy conversation about the state of birth care. 

We’re talking about what’s missing at present, the improvements we need to make with midwifery, nursing, and medical education to put person-centered care and a health equity lens at the forefront, practice changes to increase client comfort and autonomy, and what we hope for the future!

One of the themes highlighted throughout this episode is how difficult it can be to change birth care due to the power dynamics and hierarchical structure of the health system. However, the “production line” model of perinatal care is not working. It’s hard to create change when the old way has become deeply ingrained, but we have to keep pushing forward or nothing will ever change. We need to call out racism, structural inequalities, and abuse of power. We’d love to hear from you on the ways you’ve stepped up to call out issues in your work, and the impact that’s had on you as a birth professional.

Full transcript here.

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Podcast: 015 Hope & Partnering Together

We are back for Season 2 of the podcast!! This season we look forward to diving in more deeply to the highs and lows of birth care in our country and sharing more thoughtful commentary about where we go from here.

To kick off this season, we asked a few outspoken advocates & birth professionals to share their answers to the following questions:
~In a time where concerns over the unknown and feelings of loss run high, what has given you hope as we continue to navigate birth care through the pandemic?
~What is the one thing (practice, training, mindset shift, conversation, etc) that you believe can help birth professionals partner together to change birth care in the US?

We look forward to sharing with you conversations with Dr Mimi Niles, Dr Neel Shah, & Krysta Dancy!

We’d love to hear from you! How would you answer these questions? Where are you finding your hope and your drive for the future?

Full transcript of this episode

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Podcast: 014 Being a Doula During a Pandemic

This week we are honoring the end of International Doula Month.  We have a panel of doulas on to discuss their experiences of providing care through a pandemic: Chante Perryman, Cat LaPlante, and Rachel Carbonneau.

We’re talking about work:life balance, virtual doula services and other ways to pivot during this time, and how we grow from here into a truly collaborative care environment.

Despite all that has changed in the birth landscape over the last few months, babies are still being born and parents still need support. Here are some of our favorite articles highlighting the important role doulas have played during the pandemic: The Guardian and NPR.

ANNOUNCEMENT:
We have been so disappointed to see how the pandemic has caused many families to feel isolated during birth, and we want to take a stand for increased support. We are so excited to share our Virtual Doula Fund with you all! Please check out this important cause: donate if you’re able, share with those who may benefit from it, and help us improve and expand care through this pandemic.

Full transcript here

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Podcast: 013 Nurses as Advocates and Change Leaders

This week we are diving deep on how nurses can improve birth for all those in their care with special guests Torie Pugh & Mandy Irby, The Birth Nurse. We are talking about the education that is needed, how to find resources to empower your practice, and the critical issues you can tune into to be a change leader within obstetrical nursing.

Here are resources for continuing your own education:

Trauma Informed Obstetrical Care from the Birth & Trauma Support Center
Evidence Based Birth has tons of great classes, several CEU options, and also a free e-book now through May 9th
A Lifetime in Quarantine from The Black Doula
Childbirth Rights course from Birth Monopoly

Full transcript here.

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Podcast: 012 National Infertility Awareness Week

This week in honor of National Infertility Awareness Week, we have special guests Dr Torie Comeaux Plowden and Jessie Bernstein, LMT on to talk about caring for people along the fertility journey.  We discuss stigma, access to care, cultural considerations, impacts within communities of color, supporting legislative efforts, and limits of care in the time of COVID-19.

We want to recognize everyone out there who’s struggling right now with fertility hiccups and their fertility journey.  We see you, we hear you and we’re here for you.  

Resources mentioned on the show:
RESOLVE provides support and advocacy
Tinina Q. Cade Foundation provides emotional and financial support
American Society for Reproductive Medicine (ASRM) with staff and patient education portals
Fertility for Colored Girls provides awareness and hope for women and families of color as they navigate their fertility journey
The White Dress Project particularly educates about fibroids
Insurance coverage options by state is available through RESOLVE

Full transcript here.

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Podcast: 011 COVID-19, Black Maternal Health Week, & Caring for Each Other

This week Pansay (Doula), Angela (CNM), and Maggie (RNC-OB) discuss COVID-19’s impact on our birth practices. We are talking about remote doula support, how this crisis is impacting mental health for birth professionals and consumers, control during birth, and how we care for each other.  We are also calling attention to Black Maternal Health Week and calling out racial disparities in care and our collective responsibility for addressing them.

Resources about COVID-19’s impact on communities of color, particularly brown and black people: racial health disparities during coronavirus, dying at alarming rates, societal inequalities, case rates from Milwaukee and Michigan as of 4/4, and information about how Black Mamas can Thrive.

Organizations devoted to ending racial disparities in perinatal care:
National Birth Equity Collaborative
Black Mamas Matter Alliance
Mamatoto Village
National Black Doulas Association
National Association to Advance Black Birth

Resources covering how COVID-19 is impacting pregnancy: no reason to abandon pregnant people & possible permanent changes in care.

Addressing mental health concerns: for healthcare professionals & a guide for anyone dealing with COVID-19.

Full transcript here.

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Podcast: 010 COVID-19 & Birth Setting Choice

This week Ray Rachin, CPM, Abby Dennis, MD, and Maggie Runyon, RNC-OB were able to discuss the impact of COVID-19 on their professional practices, and particularly how it is impacting birth setting choice and creating deeper divides between care professionals in each setting. We acknowledge that homebirth has great safety for low-risk pregancies in well-integrated health systems, and we want to ensure those positive experiences and outcomes are preserved by continuing to have appropriate candidates pursuing homebirth. In the midst of so much unknown, we call upon birth professionals and consumers alike to be upfront about their concerns and questions with each other so that care can meet needs as much as possible.

Here are some resources you may find helpful in learning more about COVID-19, and birth setting choice:
We know we still have much to learn about COVID, which is why we ask for patience and grace as guidelines change to accommodate new knowledge.
Thoughtful guidelines and recommendations for care of birthing parents and babies from the March of Dimes.
Round-up of frequently asked questions and concerns from pregnant people about impact of COVID-19
Balancing home vs hospital options during COVID-19.

Here are some links to research about home birth safety: international study of 500,000 intended home births, and impact of well-integrated healthcare systems

Full transcript here.

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How Might We Be BIRTH Partners Through COVID-19?

Written by: Maggie Runyon, MSN, RNC-OB, CYT-200

I have sat down to write something to encompass the feelings I have about COVID-19 and how it is impacting birth care at least 5 different times now.  Each time, I stop, because it is so hard to put into words the way I feel about everything that has happened in the last few weeks.  We are in such a hard season…something unlike anything most of us have ever experienced in our lives.  There is no “right” way to handle this crisis.  Each of us is navigating this situation as best we can, and dealing with the reality that we are not operating in our ideal world right now.  We are operating in a world in a pandemic, and the situation continues to evolve so rapidly that it feels impossible to keep up.  That can become such an overwhelming feeling, and I’m sure all of us have found ourselves in a place where we can only see the negative impacts.  I get it; I’ve been there a few times myself, and that’s natural and normal, and there is nothing wrong with being upset with what is happening.  But I would hope that we could all try to take a deep breath and extend a little more grace to each other through this season.

Your BIRTH Partners was born from a desire to find a way to bring more people together within the birth world to talk about the issues that matter to us, and problem solve together to improve birth.  So often, we find ourselves typecast in our role in the birth world: we perform a certain function or job, so that means we feel a certain way, and that’s that.  It is easy to find ourselves in an environment where there is an obvious majority opinion and we are meant to just fall in line with the rhetoric, and that may make us function smoothly as a internal team and community, but it also makes it challenging to understand other perspectives and provide nuanced care.  

I have been blessed throughout my career to be surrounded by a diverse array of birth professionals, who have each shaped and molded my view of birth and what it means to provide care during birth.  I have supported birth as a nurse in small community hospitals, busy high-risk medical centers, and at home.  And despite what you may hear, I have found overwhelmingly that the birth professionals in all these different environments desire to provide safe and empathetic care that results in happy, healthy families.  Of course, there are many different care philosophies, just as there are many different values held by birthing people.  And of course, there are those who do not practice safely or with empathy across all of our different professions.  But as Bonnie Oscarson says “We must stop concentrating on our differences and focus on what we have in common. Then we can realize our full potential and achieve the greatest good in the world.”

COVID-19 has only magnified the issues that are already present in our struggling perinatal healthcare system in the U.S.  We know our poorly integrated health system limits choice for birthing people and makes it difficult to facilitate care between community and hospital providers. We know that hospital staff often feel overworked, burned out, and struggle with how to support patient autonomy in our current malpractice climate. We know that our maternal mortality and morbidity rates are much higher than they should be, and that people of color are disproportionately impacted. We know that people who pursue and provide homebirth are often maligned over safety concerns and that 1 in 3 women feel traumatized by their birth.

All of these issues within birth care are intense and important and valid.  And in many situations, they have become even more valid & pressing through the upheaval caused by COVID-19.  When people speak out about these issues, many of us feel defensive of our role in birth and the way we practice birth care, and that makes it hard to have conversations.  But the reality is that none of these people are wrong.  Their lived experience and their concerns are real, even if they do not match up with our own.  I have had to sit with this several times through the last month as I have read articles and social media posts that criticize various birth professionals and question their dedication and purpose within birth.  My heart breaks for the many pregnant people and new families who feel anxious and out of control and are having so many of their plans and support systems altered by a vicious virus.  And through all of this, we have created a situation where so many people feel they have to pick a side…they are siding with physicians, and hospitals, and public health policies OR they are siding with doulas, and midwives, and the rights of birthing people.  

I believe this is a false dichotomy, and it will only result in more divisiveness and animosity and prevent true progress forward for an integrated perinatal healthcare system.
I believe we all need to continue to advocate for the causes dear to us.  
I believe we need to speak up so that our voices are heard across the spectrum of options.
I believe we need to actively work to band together and reach out to our colleagues in different disciplines to find solutions that work.
I believe we can stay rooted in our convictions while remaining open to the way we can accomplish change.
We can speak up without necessarily criticizing individuals. We can elevate each other’s voices to promote change on larger scales.  We can do this with mutual respect and empathy.

I love the communities I have seen coming together through this challenge.  The way homebirth midwives are banding together to ensure more coverage availability for clients in their care.  The way hospitals are moving prenatal centering care, and postpartum support & breastfeeding groups online.  The way nurses and doulas and childbirth educators and lactation consultants and more are stepping up to change the kinds of services they’ve offered in the past and how they connect with birthing families.  The way midwives, physicians, doulas, and nurses continue to leave the relative safety of their homes and risk spreading infection to themselves or those they love to care for those who need them.

How might we expand our efforts, even in this intensely challenging time, to foster connection and deepen our appreciation of the role each of us plays within birth?  
How might we balance public health safety concerns with empathy for individual people and the needs of them and their families?
How might we use this time to actually create long lasting changes in the way we provide care so that we come out of this stronger rather than falling back?

Brené Brown writes “we don’t have to do it all alone; we were never meant to” and “no one belongs here more than you.”    
YOU belong here in this community; no matter what your role is as a birth professional, no matter where you practice, no matter how you gave birth.  I want to hear about your concerns and doubts and issues and challenges so we can use our collected resources to find solutions.  I want to hear about your wins and the lessons you’ve learned so we can all celebrate and grow together.


Our whole podcast panel will be getting together later this week to discuss our experiences providing care during the COVID-19 crisis.  We welcome your questions for any and all of us as you face these issues in your practice.  We would love to highlight your stories. 

We are in this together.

Podcast: 009 Shared Decision Making

This week we’re talking about Shared Decision Making as an ideal model for having conversations between birth consumers and professionals that allow for true informed consent. Conversations that lead to informed consent should not feel generic or boring or paternalistic; they should be dynamic discussions where all involved parties feel understood and are able to proceed with a care plan that best supports the birthing person’s values.

Here is a great video from Osmosis that models a Shared Decision Making conversation. This from the National Learning Consortium clearly explains the process and benefits. This sticker from Oxytocin Emporium lives on my work badge lanyard and reminds me to ensure everyone understands the “BRAINS” of any decision they’re being asked to make.

We find this week’s topic to be extremely relevant in helping all of us to remember our autonomy and to empower consumers to reclaim some agency in a time when many of us have felt powerless against the threat of COVID-19. Especially in this time of crisis, let’s work even harder to help ensure birthing people can be inspired, respected, trusted, and heard throughout their birth experience.

Full transcript here.

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“Gonna Start” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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Podcast: 008 U.S. Maternal Mortality Rate

This week we’re discussing the most recent U.S. Maternal Mortality Rates.

Link to statistics about maternal mortality in the US and globally:

National Vital Statistics Report
Global maternal mortality report from WHO
In-depth, yet easy to digest article about trends
List of countries by maternal mortality rate; for comparison

Here are several resources we mentioned this episode:

National Birth Equity Collaborative
March of Dimes
ACOG’s Alliance for Innovation on Maternal Health

Newly proposed legislation to address US’s rising rates addressed here.

We would great appreciate your comments with what other organizations you know are making strides on this front, and any particular resources you have to share.

Full transcript here.

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“Gonna Start” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
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